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| Posted by steve of oxford: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 15:26 | 1st Post |
| Just been on the gov website for car tax bands. An MX 5 registered in 1999 is £220 for the year, amazingly an MX 5 registered 2001 is £270. Hypocritically the gov says cars are taxed according to their Co2, which is complete bollox since the later MX 5 will have lower Co2. So there we are, another example of government lies and ripping off folk. Diesels....why should they get away with low tax?, when you look at the crap that comes out of those things. Be interesting to question the cretin Transport Minister on his interpretation of how this works. I'd also ask him why I am paying road tax for my MX 5 when I have VOSA proof of virtually zero emissions, (thanks to a fuel mod and very careful selection of engine oil.) Car tax based on emissions, what utter rubbish!
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| Posted by Robert: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 15:56 | 2nd Post |
steve of oxford wrote:Car tax based on emissions, what utter rubbish! To pour petrol on your fire Steve, historic cars which probably have the worst emissions have free tax. An anomaly I have struggled to understand. I tink broad principle is the key here, governments don't tend to do fine detail too well.
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| Posted by Andy: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 16:03 | 3rd Post |
| £270...thats nothing My 17 year old son has just passed his test.....there is a Y Reg Clio 1.1 for sale down the road .......for me to insure it as the main driver it would cost me £161 a year. If I want to add my son to the policy as a named driver it goes up to £5,500!!!!!  >:(>:(>:(
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| Posted by Eric: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 16:34 | 4th Post |
Andy wrote:£270...thats nothing Ye gods! Things have changed so much since I was 17... electricity for one thing.  But when I passed my driving test I bought an old van and insured it just 3rd party...not even with fire/theft...to keep the policy as low as possible, while I gained some no claims discounts. I had a series of ex commercial vehicles for 5years till I could afford to step up to a 'car' and a couple more before I could consider full comp insurance. These days it is so expensive!!!
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| Posted by Squarerigger: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 16:41 | 5th Post |
Andy wrote:£270...thats nothing Is that the norm in the UK Andy? Seems way out of line even for a teenager.
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| Posted by Robert: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 16:41 | 6th Post |
| Seems to me they don't want the business. I had a few bumps when I was a young driver, only one claim though. People didn't bother to the same degree then, there are so many expensive cars out there and insurance repairs are so expensive, somebody has to pay for them. I just had a fresh quote for my Marlin, £126, fully comp, roadside assistance, recovery and claims management, whatever that means. I think more of an issue with insurance is this stupid ruling that gender can't be used to assess risk. This Euro Union thing needs stamping on before it completely wrecks our society. If one group of drivers is a lower risk group then it should benefit from the fact, whatever the background reason. Some women drivers are being hammered with their new premiums, but I don't see any reports of men enjoying lower premiums, I wonder why... Any suggestions Steve? 
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| Posted by Eric: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 16:50 | 7th Post |
steve of oxford wrote:Just been on the gov website for car tax bands. An MX 5 registered in 1999 is £220 for the year, amazingly an MX 5 registered 2001 is £270. I kept my 2005 petrol guzzling 4x4 because the government drew a line in the sand arbitrarily saying that for models 2006 onwards the tax would be doubled. The CO2 on mine is waaaaay more than many small diesel cars on the same road tax. But for once I won't complain. 
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| Posted by Robert: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 17:03 | 8th Post |
Eric wrote:Andy wrote: Van to car NCB isn't generally transferable now Eric, I have three times lost out moving from car to van and back to car, having built up a full NCB then loosing it when I changed vehicle type. Another anomaly is this trend of fully comp being cheaper than third party, I have always considered fully comp being the domain of the careless driver or company cars. Never for careful owner drivers.
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| Posted by Eric: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 17:10 | 9th Post |
Robert wrote:Eric wrote: What even if the van is insured as a private non commercial vehicle? Fully comp is more the domain of expensive or newer vehicles...I don't consider myself a careless driver. When someone keyed the side of my car 2years ago, it cost £1500 to repair....and no one to pick up the bill except my comp insurance.
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| Posted by jk: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 17:22 | 10th Post |
| That is why so many cars in UK are without car tax and insurance. Last statistics I saw said that it was close to 20% at any one time. Seems like they could make more money stopping people at random to check insurance and car tax than worrying about speeding and the stupid speed cameras. Here in Spain as soon as they get put up the camera housing then the glass gets hammered or petrol is poured on it and set light. Seems like a good message that has been received! They have stopped putting new ones up in this area.
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| Posted by Robert: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 17:27 | 11th Post |
| Yes, In fact you can't insure a van as a private, non commercial vehicle, try taking a van into a local authority recycling centre, or through the blackwall? tunnel under the Thames, they charge you more than double the car rate even for a car derived van. I tried to take Louise over the Severn Bridge some years ago, but the toll was so high for my little van that I refused, and caused chaos while I was escorted out via a service exit, which probably cost them ore than letting me through at the car rate but I was indignant I wasn't paying their rip off charges. I enquired of my current car insurance company whether I would be OK carrying a bucket of tools to a job in my Astra estate car, which is a van with windows, they were horrified, saying I must under no circumstances engage in commercial activities because they are not registered for that type of insurance business. What a strange world we live in. I hate to say this but we need some major catastrophe to shock some of these wasteful ideas and principles out of existence.
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| Posted by jk: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 17:34 | 12th Post |
| A complete failure of Lloyds would only result in loads of whinging aristocrats and chinless wonders going on the dole as they had lost all their money. I dont buy/use insurance except for the car which is obligatory. The amount saved in premiums pays for any necessary repairs.
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| Posted by Andy: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 17:40 | 13th Post |
| i don't really understand insurance.....spoke to my current insurance company.....if I put Ieuan on as the main driver with me being named driver they would charge £1,600. Thing is my car is a Citroen C4, 1.4 VT coupe.......what ever way I go I dont think I'll bet buying myself a christmas present this year.
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| Posted by Eric: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 18:01 | 14th Post |
Robert wrote:Yes, In fact you can't insure a van as a private, non commercial vehicle, try taking a van into a local authority recycling centre, or through the blackwall? tunnel under the Thames, they charge you more than double the car rate even for a car derived van. I tried to take Louise over the Severn Bridge some years ago, but the toll was so high for my little van that I refused, and caused chaos while I was escorted out via a service exit, which probably cost them ore than letting me through at the car rate but I was indignant I wasn't paying their rip off charges. Well just goes to show how things have changed with commercial vehicles. I am surprised at the comment regarding the tools in your car. I frequently carry the 'tools' for my business use in my car and I am covered.???
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| Posted by Eric: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 18:11 | 15th Post |
jk wrote:A complete failure of Lloyds would only result in loads of whinging aristocrats and chinless wonders going on the dole as they had lost all their money. Not even you camera gear?? I have my camera gear insured which includes public liability cover. All it would take is a lamp to drop on someone's head....fortunately the only time that happened to date it was on MY head! I did consider suing myself.
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Sun Dec 2nd, 2012 18:19 | 16th Post |
Robert wrote:Seems to me they don't want the business. Yes I have an idea.....nationalise insurance companies, they've been ripping us off for years. Same with fuel distribution, there's a cartel begging to be broken, nationalise those buggers as well. As for the female driver thing, well I'm afraid I see lower rates for women as an example of sexual discrimination, and they are actually a higher risk in situations requiring reaction & focus. In my view, insurance should be based on wnkr factor, because that would bode well with innocent until proven guilty. For example, a presentable educated young lad with good references, maybe a full motorcycle license, who wants to insure a 106, Corsa etc is innocent and a low risk. Retrospectively, the wnkr factor would instantly clear the roads of farm boys, subarus, audis, vans, buses and plant hgv's....the main causes of accidents in the UK. I'd also make road rage legal in certain circumstances, and ban bus lanes or make it illegal for buses to use ordinary carriageway. Cutting people up for no justified reason particularly on roundabouts would carry a sentence of smashed fingers on both hands. Tailgating on the motorways, now that one gets me.....tailgaters should be strapped to some device and propelled head first at 70 mph into a large steel block. Personally when someone tailgates me I just dab the brakes hard, that usually lets em know they were too close. It's also amusing to watch them swerving around in a panic trying to avoid a collision because the thought of them being in the wrong if they touch your car has flashed painfully through their tiny brains in less than a tenth of a second. This is the problem, due to our nanny surveillance state it's no longer possible to punish anyone who has it coming without some bloody nosey parker camera on you. Gone are the days when you gave someone a black eye and this is one reason why we have idiot killers on the road.
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| Posted by blackfox: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 04:00 | 17th Post |
| andy there is a way around the high teenager insurance ,my grandson passed his test this year and was faced with the same problem ,we researched and found a company that fit trackers to the vehicle and then limit driving to between the hours of 6a.m and 11p.m .this effectively cut the premium to £2000 ,still high but just within the expected budget and thats on a 1.4 peugeot 206 . j.k not taking out insurance over here is a fools errand these days ,with the natural disasters we seem to be encountering almost daily .although how long it remains affordable is anyones guess after the flooding of this year though . steve petrol company cartels and energy company cartels (mostly french and german owned) are behind a lot of our sorrows ,but the goverment wont do a thing as they all probably have large shares in the companies GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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| Posted by Robert: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 08:10 | 18th Post |
| Insurance is one thing I have never skipped, Lapsed MOT's, Car Licence duty holidays and exceeding the speed limit yes but never no insurance. Now it's a fools errand, the roadside cameras can clock your number and check instantly if you are insured and up to date with MOT and licence, you simply get a massive fine and a ban through the letterbox. Many of the cameras are mobile and hidden. They can even put cameras in the cat's eyes in the middle of the road and on bridges. Talk about big brother...
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| Posted by Ray Ninness: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 11:17 | 19th Post |
| Insurance companies !!!! Always make a profit, and our yearly premium increases assure that!!! After 20 years I stopped my commercial camera insurance policy, in 20 years I never had a claim against it, and pretty much paid $20,000 for that privilege  With my four car, two motorcycle fleet, insuring that mess is getting prohibitive, especially for a retiree, with expensive tastes!!! The bad part is that insurance is so expensive, that it's getting harder to afford the stuff that needs insuring??? catch 22 perhaps??? :dumb:
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 13:12 | 20th Post |
| Ha ha! well as it happens I've just been driving one of my cars for two weeks without road tax. Up yours DVLA !
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 13:19 | 21st Post |
jk wrote:
This is what I am thinking of going for. No good on the car, but if you walk up to the camera it should be possible to knacker the CCD, if not you could always blind the speed cop or your local bus lane enforcement officer. http://www.megalaseruk.com/laser022.htm Alternatively, do as I am also considering and remove the number plates then drive past the cameras. They'd be mightily pssed-off as long as they couldn't catch you. jk wrote:
Instead of burning all those cameras, it might be more efficient simply to pour the petrol on the person responsible for their deployment.
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 13:30 | 22nd Post |
| Robert; "Now it's a fools errand, the roadside cameras can clock your number and check instantly if you are insured and up to date with MOT and licence, you simply get a massive fine and a ban through the letterbox. Many of the cameras are mobile and hidden. They can even put cameras in the cat's eyes in the middle of the road and on bridges. Talk about big brother..." The problem here is the DVLA shts grassing people up. Incidentally the fee to local authorities for giving your name and address is £1.50, or 30 bob i.e. 30 pieces of silver. Then again, despite the obvious breach of privacy you can bet your life the grassing Judas filth are exempt. In relation to the cameras I have been done three times in the last year by Reading Borough Council's bus lane department, each time the bus lane identification has been non-compliant. I now consider myself being stalked by RBC, and am considering buying another SLR and stalking them with it, right in their faces. Seems fair enough, they take imagery of me without my permission, I do it back. Ultimately the only way to deal with these government serving CCTV snitches is to grab em one dark night and kick their heads in, same as you would deal with any grasser.
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| Posted by Ray Ninness: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 15:54 | 23rd Post |
steve of oxford wrote: Ha ha! well as it happens I've just been driving one of my cars for two weeks without road tax.Well both my Jeep Cherokee and the Mini "S" are properly licensed, but not passed the state vehicle inspection. The Jeep is fine, and it's insured, but the Mini needs $1200.00 in tires (Tyres), it's riding on slicks now :-( 49,000 miles and five sets of stick, expensive rubber later, it's still a hoot to drive, oh it hasn't had insurance on it in a year :-O I have been driving the Dodge Mini-Van (Espace) Soccer Mom car And the wife won't part with her SMART car for anything 
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 17:00 | 24th Post |
| Ray; it's still a hoot to drive [Mini] I got rid of mine 18 months ago and bought an MX 5 (Miata) Personally I think the MX 5 is a better car. Did the cooling mod on mine, induction kit. Is faster than a cooper S & out-handles it, especially on winding country roads. Not bad for a 99 normally aspirated 1.8 with 140,000 on the clock, vs a blown cooper. AND....a lot less maintenance hassles. There is nothing on the MX 5 I couldn't tackle myself. Joy to drive joy to work on. Perfect 50-50 weight balance (for which they are famed) no torque steer obviously, nice and low to the ground and with perfect steering feedback. I put a hand built sports exhaust on, and threw the CAT away, replaced with a bypass pipe, 'F' to emissions regs this how we do things in England.....the exhaust and induction side sound just perfect on full throttle. Mods that give gains but don't cost an arm & a leg. Looking back I wish I had got an MX 5 instead of the Cooper. Wouldn't sell mine for anything. Next best thing to an Elan, but with the reliability. She's getting on a bit now though, it's coming time for an engine strip, top end job and new rings. Oil gets a bit black sooner than normal these days. Best mass produced lightweight sports car, IMO. Heres mine: Attachment: DSC00475.jpg (Downloaded 32 times)
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| Posted by Robert: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 17:07 | 25th Post |
| Tires are fine Ray! Especially if they cost $1,200 a set. We have to have at least 1.6mm 1/16" of tread depth across the full width of the tire. I get all my tyres from a local friendly car breaker at between £5 and £10 a time, inflated, on wheels. Find the prospect of $1,200 a set hard to grasp.
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Mon Dec 3rd, 2012 17:23 | 26th Post |
Robert wrote:Tires are fine Ray! Especially if they cost $1,200 a set. We have to have at least 1.6mm 1/16" of tread depth across the full width of the tire. £600 + VAT for my old Cooper. Mazda I got a set of Avon ZV-3 locally for £280 including fitting. They're a pretty good tyre wet & dry. Tried to get BF Goodrich but for some unknown stupid reason no one round here seems to stock them. I used to get part worn at about £10-£20 a tyre when I first got married, but there's no way I could trust anything like that on the MX 5, now and then in the summer I might touch 130 on the motorway, cheap tyres aren't worth the risk for me.
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| Posted by Doug: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 06:13 | 27th Post |
blackfox wrote:... cut the premium to £2000 Holy Crap My 19yo Daughter is able to drive my Hyundai Getz for nowt extra, the excess just goes up to $750 for under 25yo drivers It was much the same for some much hotter cars here too with the insurers only issue being that the government here recently banned younger drivers from having a Turbo V8, No problem (ooh 4 cylinder with Turbo, can't have that) I was seriously considering the Fiat 500 Abarth or the Toyota 86 to travel my 25k/year I am now considering the Holden Barina CDX because it will be the first to have 'Eyes Free' or the VW Up because it goes about 1,000,000 miles on a wrung out rag Decisions Decisions...
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| Posted by jk: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 10:29 | 28th Post |
| Steve, I see you have a very interesting number plate on the MX5. VSOLLY. One more numeral addition and it would be VSILLY. 
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 11:13 | 29th Post |
jk wrote:Steve, I see you have a very interesting number plate on the MX5. It's actually being very apologetic in Japenglish
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 11:22 | 30th Post |
| Some years ago there was a craze of mounting small flash slave units on the side of the number plates. They were supposed to trigger when a speed camera flashed you/them and obliterate the number plate with extreme over exposure. Don't know if they worked? You could look really daft giving rude gestures to the camera only to find the battery on the slave was dead.
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| Posted by KenRay: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 11:27 | 31st Post |
| I think the speed cameras were invented here in Arizona. They were put on most of the hiways and several cities have them installed. They have since been removed from all the State Hiways but most of the cities have them as great revenue producers. I know Tucson surely does. The most effective oposition they have here is the license plates are sprayed with a non-reflecting dull spray which they say works. They get your picture but not the plate number. I know I see an awful lot that have this spray on them. As far as insuarance goes,I dodged a Deer a couple of months ago and ran off on the berm, before I got back on the road I hit a single roadside marker (one of the slim ones like a steel fence post). It did $4900 damage to my 2006 Mustang. I'm glad I had the insuarance even though it is fairly costly and will probably go up now. It's still a bargain in my eyes and I will continue to have it in effect. I also have home insuarance and have NEVER (in over 50 years)had a claim against it. Would not be without it either. What I do NOT have is life insuarance. Only had it while I was employed and then only because it was always provided by the company I worked for.
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 14:23 | 32nd Post |
jk wrote:Steve, I see you have a very interesting number plate on the MX5. Now now don't be silly Jonathan. It used to be V5 OLLY.
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 14:38 | 33rd Post |
KenRay wrote:I think the speed cameras were invented here in Arizona. They were put on most of the hiways and several cities have them installed. They have since been removed from all the State Hiways but most of the cities have them as great revenue producers. I know Tucson surely does. The most effective oposition they have here is the license plates are sprayed with a non-reflecting dull spray which they say works. They get your picture but not the plate number. I know I see an awful lot that have this spray on them. As far as insuarance goes,I dodged a Deer a couple of months ago and ran off on the berm, before I got back on the road I hit a single roadside marker (one of the slim ones like a steel fence post). It did $4900 damage to my 2006 Mustang. I'm glad I had the insuarance even though it is fairly costly and will probably go up now. It's still a bargain in my eyes and I will continue to have it in effect. I also have home insuarance and have NEVER (in over 50 years)had a claim against it. Would not be without it either. What I do NOT have is life insuarance. Only had it while I was employed and then only because it was always provided by the company I worked for. That would be correct, speed cameras (like tasers and all the other illegal toys) were invented in America, imported to the UK by Blair. Oh what's that smell?....I know..it's the smell of big juicy back-handers. The difference is here in the UK we're too soft and stupid to stick together and sue the DVLA for breach of right to privacy, so we also have ANPR. I can see the day coming when eventually (God willing) motorists en-mass remove or obscure number plates. I've already done this several times in the last month along Reading Council's bus lanes....straight past the cameras. (Note to RBC snoops; it wasn't in the Mazda, try harder lol.) It's an interesting fact: a recent survey classified England as being the global leader in state cctv surveillance. Enough is enough, time these corporate bribed traitors masquerading as governments, and their town hall scum were taught the painful way how English freedom works.
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 15:01 | 34th Post |
Eric wrote:Some years ago there was a craze of mounting small flash slave units on the side of the number plates. They were supposed to trigger when a speed camera flashed you/them and obliterate the number plate with extreme over exposure. Yes they did work, however that was in the days of film cameras. Digital ones now take a number of fast frames, so unless you have an extremely fast strobe, almost 100% duty cycle, there will be a few frames that get you. The best way is to; 1) obscure or remove the number plate 2) set fire to the camera 3) set fire to the town hall official 4) smash the camera 5) smash the town hall official 6) follow the town hall official around continually photographing him, when he snaps...defend yourself extremely well and possibly forget when to stop doing so. 7) present an FOI demanding the name of the business who supplied the camera......accidentally bump into the owner of that business one dark night and explain how it works. You 'may' have just been to an indoor Golf Range and have a club with you, and by sheer coincidence your wife might have asked you to collect some black bin bags on your way home. You get the idea.
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| Posted by richw: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 15:44 | 35th Post |
| Speeding cameras here in Victoria are an absolute menace. In NSW they are obvious and labelled and you can normally see why they are situated where they are. In Victoria it's pure revenue raising. They are very well hidden and they have a fleet of unmarked cars with cameras positioned on the front like spot lights. I just got done for travelling at 64 Km/hr in a 60Km/ hr zone. $176 fine and one demerit point. The road was a wide sweeping curve with good visibility, very little traffic and wide grass verges either side in a purely industrial area. The police camera car was the only car parked at the side of the road. I saw the cameras on the way back and knew it had probably got me in the opposite direction. I don't feel I was driving in a way that put anybody at any risk.
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 16:31 | 36th Post |
richw wrote:Speeding cameras here in Victoria are an absolute menace. In NSW they are obvious and labelled and you can normally see why they are situated where they are. UK ones are also situated to make money and nothing else. Over here we don't object to them being located near a School or Hospital which is fair enough, but that's actually quite rare. It's all about social control sleep walking the country into something very nasty, and of course...making a lot of money for the usual corrupt governments and town hall fat cats. Anyone who still thinks surveillance technology is there to protect them is a naive idiot.
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Sun Dec 16th, 2012 04:22 | 37th Post |
| Get this ! Another bus lane PCN, this time for being in a bus lane in which drivers have no choice but to cross the lane to get to local shops.....so is it a bus only lane or not? To make matters worse, I paid the £30 on line, but on checking my bank statement discovered READING BOROUGH COUNCIL had made a second debit from my account, thus unauthorised access to my account and THEFT of money. Think it ends there? think again.....READING BOROUGH COUNCIL were terminated from using the DVLA database. So the question arises, where are these subhumans getting people's registration details from? If the police are doing it for them it's very serious, since bus lane and parking are civil matters. The police have no authority to provide registration details to anyone other than the CPS & courts. However, not for me to say we have a bent copper at Reading nick. Currently I have an FOI for Reading town hall thieves to disclose where they got my registration details from...what's the betting they decline to answer under section 14 cop-out clause. Thieving subhuman scum....no wonder these scum are too scared to meet in person with their PCN victims, they'd be put in hospital with head injuries.....and it would be justified, why should they be treated differently to any other thief. Now it seems READING BOROUGH COUNCIL are allowed dispensation to commit cyber-crime. It's disgusting, and I have complained of being camera stalked by the head of Bus Lane Enforcement, and demanded that she should be sacked, if not I will exercise my right to stalk her back.
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| Posted by blackfox: Sun Dec 16th, 2012 04:49 | 38th Post |
glad i moved out of reading 27 years ago reading this .horrible heartless town then seems worse now .long live free wales 
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Sun Dec 16th, 2012 07:28 | 39th Post |
blackfox wrote:glad i moved out of reading 27 years ago reading this .horrible heartless town then seems worse now .long live free wales Oh it's a corporate money grabbing shthole, we moved out of Reading about 25 years ago. We used to live by the University. The problem with Reading is the fact that it's a medieval town obviously not designed for cars, and you also have a golden circle of councillors doing what the hell they like with the roads to get as much CCTV in as possible, to grab as much money as possible. As for the bus lanes, it's all bllox I'd like to know what prick it was who ever had the self appointed authority to decide a bus had more rights on the road than any other vehicle. I now know where the head of RBC bus lane enforcement lives, which is fair enough.....if they know where I live I have a right to know where they live...they incessantly photograph me without my consent, I'll do likewise to them. Basically, anything they do to me I'll do back since these are civil matters. These town hall scum cowards need a reeducation on how it works, the traditional English way.....by dark night & fist if necessary.
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Sun Dec 16th, 2012 07:33 | 40th Post |
| Robert; "Now it's a fools errand, the roadside cameras can clock your number and check instantly .........illegally of course, if the local authority was suspended or terminated from the DVLA database as is the case with Reading. I'm waiting to find out where RBC is getting registration details from, that is going to prove very interesting. Or very embarrassing for the police or Motor Insurance Database.
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| Posted by blackfox: Sun Dec 16th, 2012 18:46 | 41st Post |
| Oh it's a corporate money grabbing shthole, we moved out of Reading about 25 years ago. We used to live by the University. i bet you used to drink in the merry maidens and sportsmans arms to .my two locals LOL
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| Posted by steve of oxford: Mon Dec 17th, 2012 14:45 | 42nd Post |
blackfox wrote:Oh it's a corporate money grabbing shthole, we moved out of Reading about 25 years ago. We used to live by the University. Ah the merry maidens, Shinfield road. I haven't been in there since about 1976. Though I've driven past recently and noticed the concrete tits have gone. In fact I don't think it's a pub anymore.
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