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Posted by Iain: Mon Apr 16th, 2012 09:34 1st Post
I got a 7D and 400mm f5.6 over the weekend and took some test shots with it today and this is one below.

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Posted by jk: Mon Apr 16th, 2012 12:21 2nd Post
Looks very yellow and green.
Oh no that is the reflection from the green monkey.

Nice capture Iain.
Glad that you are liking the new kit.



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Posted by Iain: Mon Apr 16th, 2012 15:37 3rd Post
jk wrote:
Looks very yellow and green.
Oh no that is the reflection from the green monkey.


And here's me thinking it was a greenfinch.

:rofl:



Posted by Squarerigger: Mon Apr 16th, 2012 16:29 4th Post
Nice shot Iain. What settings did you use? What was your location to the bird?



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Posted by richw: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 01:23 5th Post
That is a nice shot Iain, very nice Bokeh as well.



Posted by jk: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 04:34 6th Post
Begs the squestion why Nikon dont have a 400 mm AFS lens other than the f2.8 unit!

Everyone is tired of waiting for the update for the 80-400 f4.5-5.6 AF, it really needs AFS on it especially with all the new lesser spec cameras such as the D5100/5000/3000/3100 that can only use AFS lenses.



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Posted by Iain: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 05:49 7th Post
It was ISO800 @5.6 and 1/320 and the bird was about 25-30 feet away and I have cropped the image to what it is.



Posted by Iain: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 05:55 8th Post
jk wrote:
Begs the squestion why Nikon dont have a 400 mm AFS lens other than the f2.8 unit!



That is something I can't understand either. The Canon 400 f5.6 focuses fast and is sharp wide open and above all light.



Posted by Ralph G Speer: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 08:05 9th Post
Love it -- Perfect

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Posted by whiteiris: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 09:10 10th Post
Am I right I saying the 7d is a 'DX' size sensor and the 400mm is an' 'FX' lens...so the effective focal length on your shot was 600mm ish?



Posted by Doug: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 09:26 11th Post
whiteiris wrote:
Am I right I saying the 7d is a 'DX' size sensor and the 400mm is an' 'FX' lens...so the effective focal length on your shot was 600mm ish?
It's slightly smaller than DX at 1.6x (insteadof 1.5x) crop
This means the equivalent is 640mm

Another advantage/disadvantage of the Canon system depending on whether you are shooting a wide or a telephoto

Btw. I would strongly discourage purchasing af-s lenses as one day you will end up kicking yourself:no:



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Posted by jk: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 10:48 12th Post
Doug wrote: whiteiris wrote:
Am I right I saying the 7d is a 'DX' size sensor and the 400mm is an' 'FX' lens...so the effective focal length on your shot was 600mm ish?
It's slightly smaller than DX at 1.6x (insteadof 1.5x) crop
This means the equivalent is 640mm

Another advantage/disadvantage of the Canon system depending on whether you are shooting a wide or a telephoto

Btw. I would strongly discourage purchasing af-s lenses as one day you will end up kicking yourself:no:

Did you really mean this ?
Btw. I would strongly discourage purchasing af-s lenses as one day you will end up kicking yourself.


I am looking to get AFS on all my lenses.
Unfortunately that also means G style lens but AFS is a real win for me.





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Posted by Doug: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 11:26 13th Post
jk wrote:
Did you really mean this ?
Doug wrote:
Btw. I would strongly discourage purchasing af-s lenses as one day you will end up kicking yourself.


Apologies - late night typo - I meant Canon Ef-s lenses (Not Nikon AFs lenses)

As you know, Nikon make DX lenses and these can be used (cropped) on FX cameras

Canon make (equivalent) Ef-s lenses and these can NOT be used (cropped) on Canon Full Frame bodies the Ef-s mount is different to the EF mount

Fortunately Sigma make Canon Mount DC lenses (as opposed to DG) which are comparable in performance to the Canon Ef-s range and these can be used (cropped) on Canon full frame bodies

Canon make a mediocre 10-22 EFs, a great 60mm Macro EFs and an excellent 17-55 EFs*, but you would cry if you didn't realise at time of purchase that they could not be used on that future 5D that you might find at a bargain price

*there are a few other EFs lenses from Canon including the pretty average 18-200 (worse than Nikons 18-200) along with Canon's worst lens - the 18-55 and a couple of others



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Posted by jk: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 12:24 14th Post
I know nothing about Canon cameras since the Canon F1n. Awesome camera that was owned by a flatmate of mine when I was at university. He had the Canon and I had the Nikon F2. Then a few years later came the Nikon F3 which was just like the Canon F1n but nicer.



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Posted by Iain: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 14:38 15th Post
Doug, I am making sure that my lens are all EF that can be used on any canon body.



Posted by Doug: Tue Apr 17th, 2012 20:04 16th Post
If you feel you need a lens like the 10-22, I recommend that you purchase the Sigma equivalent

One day you might get a 5D (MkIV perhaps) and then you will be glad of the extra resolution

Unfortunately, AFAIK, you must shoot a Full Frame image then crop later since I'm not aware of Canon supporting the method used in DX crop mode on Nikon FX cameras

(DX Crop - in camera crop with viewfinder darkening to permit the capture of 15MP images at 1.5x magnification. The main disadvantage is the smaller viewfinder area available and the rearrangement of the, thankfully many, focus points)

DX crop allows a Nikon D800 to shoot with a 400mm as though it's a 600mm similar to choosing a 7D with a 400mm (of course the 7D is much cheaper)



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Posted by Iain: Wed Apr 18th, 2012 12:39 17th Post
Until the D800 the DX crop mode on FF was a waste of time in my opinion as it reduced the mp's too much.



Posted by Iain: Wed Apr 18th, 2012 12:46 18th Post
Am I the first to have a double post.

Mods please fix.

Thanks.



Posted by Robert: Wed Apr 18th, 2012 13:30 19th Post
Done Iain!

Yes I think that was the first, so the double post lives on...



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Posted by blackfox: Thu Apr 19th, 2012 03:54 20th Post
you will love that setup for a long time ian ,its good and fast ,canons 7d burst mode is to die for ,the 400 f5.6 can be used all day long at 5.6 without a missed shot ,the only problems being you cannot extend the range via a t/c and the 3.5 mtr close focussing will grate on your nerves after a while . if by any chance your after a good buy my lad is selling a sigma 100-300 f2.8 os only six months old hardly used (its to heavy for him) at a good open to offers price .if your interested either p.m me for details or you can see it advertised on "bird forum"



Posted by Iain: Fri Apr 20th, 2012 05:29 21st Post
Thanks for the offer but part of the reason for changing was to have lighter equipment.



Posted by Iain: Tue May 15th, 2012 12:54 22nd Post
*Update*

Ok, I've been using the 7D for just over a month and my findings so far are,
    The detail due to the 18mp is good and handy for cropping
    The focus on static subjects is fast and positive. However the focus on moving subjects is hit and miss and the keeper rate compared to a 1D or the Nikons with the 51 point focus system is poor.
    Noise levels are on a par with the D300/D300s but the files will accept noise reduction software better.

As for the Canon 400 f5.6 lens I can't fault it and still can't understand why Nikon don't do one.



Posted by Squarerigger: Wed May 16th, 2012 06:43 23rd Post
Sounds like you have settled in with the new kit and adapted. Don't forget to share your wildlife photos from time to time Iain.



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Posted by TomOC: Wed May 16th, 2012 13:44 24th Post
Nice shot, Iain... But don't tell me you are moving to the dark side? Are you?

Seems like such a major change...

Tom



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Posted by Iain: Thu May 17th, 2012 05:38 25th Post
Squarerigger wrote:
Sounds like you have settled in with the new kit and adapted. Don't forget to share your wildlife photos from time to time Iain.
Here's one to keep you going.

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Posted by Iain: Thu May 17th, 2012 05:40 26th Post
TomOC wrote:
Nice shot, Iain... But don't tell me you are moving to the dark side? Are you?

Seems like such a major change...

Tom

I have Tom.



Posted by Squarerigger: Thu May 17th, 2012 07:15 27th Post
Iain wrote:
Squarerigger wrote:
Sounds like you have settled in with the new kit and adapted. Don't forget to share your wildlife photos from time to time Iain.
Here's one to keep you going.


Thanks Iain, very nice indeed.



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