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| Posted by Andy: Fri Mar 14th, 2014 09:21 | 1st Post |
| Afternoon, I see on the Adobe website that they are offering under the Photography section of Photo Cloud a monthly membership/cost of £8.78. You get access to Photoshop CC & LR5........after a year reverts back to "standard rate" what ever that will be. Do you think is worth doing? https://creative.adobe.com/plans/offer/photoshop+lightroom
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| Posted by jk: Fri Mar 14th, 2014 13:38 | 2nd Post |
| Thanks Andy. Good price but then it goes back to £19.90 a month. But as I have said before I dont do subscription software especially one as important as Photoshop. I'll stick with Photoshop CS6. That said I dont know what happens when they stop providing ACR updates for CS6. I guess I will revert to using Capture One Pro for everything and then edit the final output.
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| Posted by TomOC: Fri Mar 14th, 2014 14:06 | 3rd Post |
| Just FYI, in USA the deal is $9.99 / month - REGULAR price. Wonder if that offer is an older one?
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| Posted by amazing50: Mon Mar 17th, 2014 11:16 | 4th Post |
| I don't use enough of the features to require an update from CS2. Only use some of the basic things like Curves and sharpen and some retouching on occasion. It also runs some drivers for the Canon IPF6100 printer that work well and I hate to fix what's not broken.
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| Posted by jk: Mon Mar 17th, 2014 14:17 | 5th Post |
| Glad you are back in and posting amazing50. These PC breakdowns are a nuisance.
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| Posted by amazing50: Wed Mar 19th, 2014 00:42 | 6th Post |
| Only back on my small laptop. Going to install Win7 on a fresh HD and try again.
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| Posted by jk: Wed Mar 19th, 2014 05:03 | 7th Post |
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| Posted by Doug: Sun Mar 30th, 2014 05:50 | 8th Post |
| JK - I think, sooner or later, you'll get left behind. I wouldn't be surprised if LR6 becomes subscription only and what will you do then, when Nikon release that next camera. Stop shooting Raw, DNG Converter, Stick with the cameras you've got? After much thought I've signed up. I was very p!$$ed initially as they were charging ~$20/month for PS/LR with an offer of $9.99 for owners of PSCS3 or later As an owner of PSCS2 and Creative Suite 3 Design Standard I was not eligible I ended up finding a PSCS5 upgrade for PSCS2 which made me eligible Then, just a few months later the deal was made available for everyone. Who knows what the deal will be in the future, but this is the way everything is going I'm afraid Office, Spotify, Xero, Lightspeed and many others are subscription only to begin with or have recently switched
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| Posted by jk: Sun Mar 30th, 2014 06:57 | 9th Post |
| I have other RAW processor softwares such as LightZone, IridientDeveloper, CaptureOne, and other smaller softwares to use. I dont want to pay a monthly fee. Quite honestly I dont need Adobe they only provide a 'software of convenience'. I have a legal license for Adobe CS6 and Lightroom 5 but I dont intend to upgrade them to CC, this can only be seen as a revenue loss. In the last ten years I have contacted Adobe and posted on their and other forums that ACR should be unbundles from Photoshop and latterly also Lightroom. If ACR was a charged software it could be sold as 'spot 'upgrades for individual cameras or with a need to upgrade continuously (I prefer the former over the latter). If a large organisation does not listen to its customers it will wither and die. Adobe has a huge money pot from corporate sales so Yes it can survive for many years but if it doesnt listen then slowly it will wither and eventually it will become a Corel. We know very well what Corel does to software that it purchases. I am confident that if Adobe ceased to exist tomorrow that I would not significantly miss their departure as I can find ways to work with CS6 and LR5.3 and other software so that my images can still be managed and printed for the rest of my lifetime. The new workflow will be a little more complex but the quality will be unchanged and the cost will be minimal.
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| Posted by Eric: Sun Mar 30th, 2014 09:41 | 10th Post |
jk wrote:I have other RAW processor softwares such as LightZone, IridientDeveloper, CaptureOne, and other smaller softwares to use. Totally agree. There are too many treadmills that the modern world feels you have to be on. It's simply not true. As Graham showed, a film camera can still match a D800. Or vice versa, depending on which point you want to make. It's the same with mobile phones. Why do I want 900 minutes, 1000 texts a month for £20? I don't know that many people to contact...or want to. And when I do send a txt, it's invariable verbose and lacking the modern text speak abbreviations.....so it ends up as an MMS at extra charge! Sorry having a rant. I just don't believe we have to keep changing buses at every stop. Sometimes it's nice to sit and smell the roses.  My underlying objection to all this upgrading is it does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to improve you photography...which is what I feel it's all about. Don't get me started on the Sottish referendum   >:(  
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| Posted by jk: Sun Mar 30th, 2014 11:10 | 11th Post |
| Well I'm happy enough to let Adobe do their thing but I'm not joining their game. There are many balls in the park and all in different games with many players. Re the 900minutes and 1000texts. I dont want to fry my brains for 900mins per month and texts are discretionary and I can probably have a short conversation and do away with the need for 100 texts!! As for the Scottish referendum. I have friends in both camps and actually if Scotland devolves is there not a need to offer the same choice to Northern Ireland and Wales then it begs the question how many politicians we will still need. More than 10 MPs is more than enough to run the country with the number of civil servants we have. I am all for the village state.  All politicians should be strangled (or humanely killed) on first demonstrable inclination of this unfortunate disease. 
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| Posted by richw: Mon Mar 31st, 2014 01:20 | 12th Post |
| But when Wales and NI go next it will be Cornwall. After that my money is on Yorkshire and that might leave Eric with a conundrum, move or not be a Citizen of his homeland?
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| Posted by amazing50: Wed Apr 2nd, 2014 20:16 | 13th Post |
| 900 minutes, 1000 texts a month for £20, that's about 1/2 the cost of cell service in Ontario. A decent plan is around $100 CDN £55 for a smart phone and a family of 4 plan can run over $250 or about £140 a month.
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| Posted by Eric: Thu Apr 3rd, 2014 18:44 | 14th Post |
amazing50 wrote:900 minutes, 1000 texts a month for £20, that's about 1/2 the cost of cell service in Ontario. A decent plan is around $100 CDN £55 for a smart phone and a family of 4 plan can run over $250 or about £140 a month. You do surprise me. The UK cheaper for something??? 
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| Posted by jk: Fri Apr 4th, 2014 03:34 | 15th Post |
| There are fewer people and it is a much larger country so the investment in infrastructure is greater in Canada than UK.
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| Posted by Eric: Fri Apr 4th, 2014 13:19 | 16th Post |
jk wrote:There are fewer people and it is a much larger country so the investment in infrastructure is greater in Canada than UK. Or they all use Skype.
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| Posted by amazing50: Fri Apr 4th, 2014 23:34 | 17th Post |
| We get the "Big Country" argument all the time, but they don't put cell towers where there are no people. All the other things are cheaper over here like office space in Toronto compared to London etc. Skype on a mobile costs a bandwidth charge that is high.
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