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| Posted by jk: Mon Dec 16th, 2019 17:04 | 1st Post |
| Has anyone seen this? Looks very good. https://www.letspinout.com/ https://www.letspinout.com/files/Pinout-manual-draft.pdf https://www.letspinout.com/#buy
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| Posted by GeoffR: Tue Dec 17th, 2019 05:21 | 2nd Post |
| It looks interesting if you buy the Pro or Full kit, the basic kit does little more than a wired remote, but at half the price of a Nikon one. The biggest problem is that Amazon don't have stock and don't know if they will have any more. Another possible, though probably minor, issue is the reduction in battery life of the phone to which it is connected. I'd like to try one but only the Pro or Full kit would be of real interest, neither of which appears to be available.
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| Posted by Robert: Tue Dec 17th, 2019 12:13 | 3rd Post |
| Much the same thing as this... https://www.foolography.com/products/unleashed/ This is the one I would choose, less gimmicky I think. Has a good reputation and is I am told very reliable, across the Nikon range I know several users who rely on these, day in and day out. The recent addition of extended Bulb exposures and the promised time lapse 'Holy Grail' feature to level exposures from daylight to full darkness and back is very desirable, not sure if it's implemented yet but it is/was on their promised feature list. I am confident this one has it's own GPS chip because at least one of the users I know doesn't even own a smartphone and he uses it purely for the GPS feature. I suspect the 'LetsPinout' one relies on the smart phone to get the location data. Smart phones are not particularly good at GPS in my experience, by miles, not good at compass bearings either.
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| Posted by GeoffR: Wed Dec 18th, 2019 12:00 | 4th Post |
| I have got to the stage where I consider long and hard whether a new piece of kit will get adequate use before I buy it. I am so far unconvinced that I would use either of these often enough to justify the expense. Once you consider how often you use a camera remotely (very rarely in my case) you begin to see how much use you might make of a remote control, even if it does add features. I have a Nikon wired remote/intervalometer/long exposure timer and I hardly ever use it so why would I use one of these any more often?
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| Posted by novicius: Wed Dec 18th, 2019 17:55 | 5th Post |
| That geo tagging / logging is of interest to me, as I`m soon going long haul again.....but I find them a little pricey...
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| Posted by Robert: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 03:36 | 6th Post |
GeoffR wrote:I have got to the stage where I consider long and hard whether a new piece of kit will get adequate use before I buy it. I am so far unconvinced that I would use either of these often enough to justify the expense. Once you consider how often you use a camera remotely (very rarely in my case) you begin to see how much use you might make of a remote control, even if it does add features. I have a Nikon wired remote/intervalometer/long exposure timer and I hardly ever use it so why would I use one of these any more often?I would guess without checking exactly, currently more than 50% of my photography is either intervalometer, time lapse or long to very long exposure. I would simply insert the device in the camera and forget it. I have an MC36 wired intervalometer and it's very useful, however the 'Holy Grail' feature is something I need for 24 hr time-lapse, also the GPS would be invaluable. The lack of a wire is a great benefit especially at night and the ability to control the camera from a distance is another plus. Allowing me to control the camera without risking spoiling exposures with my head torch, even on dim red it can easily ruin several exposures while I make adjustments to the camera settings. The GPS feature saves me having to manually allocate locations for all my images and will probably be more discerning. I find the 'Map' feature in Lightroom invaluable, it enables me to find images by location when I sometimes struggle to remember the date, or even the year. If I know I want a particular image at a particular location, I simply go to the map, find the rough location and all the images I took at that location are there. Currently I have to manually place them there first which is a bit of a chore but still easier than keywording. This is especially useful in large botanic gardens when wanting to locate specific planting areas. Also photographing events like motorcycle trials which are widespread, the Scottish Six Day trial is a good example, so many sections over a wide area, (perhaps a 30-40 mile radius) identifying each section and finding it on the map is very time consuming, the sections themselves are sometimes quite long, is good to be able to evaluate the best places to stand to get the most spectacular images. Doing this post shoot is quite challenging and involves a lot of guesswork in wooded areas where the track isn't visible to the satellite but GPS still works.
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| Posted by jk: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 04:04 | 7th Post |
| I think the GPS function is very useful and this is what attracted me to the device. I think that the 10pin interface on my D850, D800, D3S is superior to the new rectangular interface adapter that is present on my Z7, D600, D90, D80. I like the idea of using my phone as a remote triggering device as sometimes I set the camera on a rock, when I dont have my tripod, and touching it is a potential move event.
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| Posted by GeoffR: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 08:04 | 8th Post |
Robert wrote:I would guess without checking exactly, currently more than 50% of my photography is either intervalometer, time lapse or long to very long exposure. I would simply insert the device in the camera and forget it.I don't dispute the usefulness of such devices, merely point out that my need of one is, currently, minimal.
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| Posted by chrisbet: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 08:47 | 9th Post |
| I have a simple app on my phone that has a remote trigger plus time lapse timer that takes x number of images y time apart, plus a bulb timer - it also has a sound trigger so you can operate it by voice - it works via the infrared sensor on the camera.Best bit is that it is free and needs no gizmos plugged in to the camera.
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| Posted by jk: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 12:09 | 10th Post |
chrisbet wrote:I have a simple app on my phone that has a remote trigger plus time lapse timer that takes x number of images y time apart, plus a bulb timer - it also has a sound trigger so you can operate it by voice - it works via the infrared sensor on the camera.Best bit is that it is free and needs no gizmos plugged in to the camera.Chris, What is the app called?
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| Posted by chrisbet: Thu Dec 19th, 2019 17:04 | 11th Post |
| Just called "Camera remote" - it is an Android app - maybe available on IoS as well? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dslr.camera.ir.remote.full
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| Posted by Robert: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 02:40 | 12th Post |
Am I missing something?  None of my ten pin plug cameras have inbuilt Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or IR, these 'pinout' and 'Unleashed' gismos simply provide the interface to allow use with a mobile 'phone to provide the remote control. How can an external controller communicate with my cameras without either a Bluetooth/Wi-Fi adaptor, or a wire? I already have a Nikon ML-3 IR controller but that only provides a remote shutter release, the IR receiver sits in the flash hot shoe and connects to the camera with a ten pin plug. Maybe has a range of 10 to 20 feet? If ever funds allow I will get at least one Unleashed unit and leave it permanently mounted in the D800, where it will provide GPS data in the EXIF, in addition to the remote control features. It only draws power when the camera if turned on, so there should be no serious penalty for it's use. I note that according to the sales blurb, the IR remote only works with certain Galaxy 'phones but I know even less about Android than I do about iPhones! LOL
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| Posted by GeoffR: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 16:34 | 13th Post |
Robert wrote:Am I missing something?Robert, there is a potential problem with a GPS device that is powered only when the camera is powered. The GPS device will need to acquire the satellites before it can send any data to the camera to be inserted into the EXIF data. The advantage of the pinout, or similar, device is that it uses your phone's GPS which is always on meaning there is no acquisition delay and you can shoot immediately. I would quite like that functionality but there are other devices that can do what I would like too.
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| Posted by jk: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 17:32 | 14th Post |
| Modern GPS devices use hardly any power and so are almost not worth considering in terms of consumption. Switching camera on/off rather than letting the camera sleep uses more!
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| Posted by jk: Fri Dec 20th, 2019 18:25 | 15th Post |
chrisbet wrote:Just called "Camera remote" - it is an Android app - maybe available on IoS as well?Unfortunately not available on iOS.
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| Posted by Robert: Sat Dec 21st, 2019 02:06 | 16th Post |
GeoffR wrote:Robert, there is a potential problem with a GPS device that is powered only when the camera is powered. The GPS device will need to acquire the satellites before it can send any data to the camera to be inserted into the EXIF data. The advantage of the pinout, or similar, device is that it uses your phone's GPS which is always on meaning there is no acquisition delay and you can shoot immediately.Once at location and in 'shooting mode' I don't usually turn my camera off, except to change lenses or batteries. As JK mentions the camera consumption is minimal as it sleeps. On rare occasions I have left my D3 and the D300s switched on for days or weeks, the battery is still as it was when I left it. Haven't yet done it with the D800 but expect similar result. I don't trust my iPhone GPS at all, When I try using my Apple 'Photos' software I have noticed the allocated map location can be up to five miles from the actual location and is frequently inaccurate to an unacceptable degree. Unrelated from photography, the compass bearing can take several minutes to stabilise, with wildly varying opinion as to where North is. This translates to initial very poor reliability/performance for my sky/star watcher, locator type apps. I use an oldish iPhone 6S, newer phones may be better? I don't know but unlikely to upgrade for at least two years, so I just get on with it. Perhaps this is related to your comment about satellite acquisition? Perhaps I need to somehow wake the satellite acquisition somehow before taking photos with my iPhone.
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