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| Posted by Kathy Baker: Tue Sep 24th, 2013 15:27 | 1st Post |
| Any thoughts on using authentic but very expired ink in the Epson R800? Thanks, Kathy
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| Posted by Robert: Tue Sep 24th, 2013 17:02 | 2nd Post |
| Hi Kathy, good to see you. I think it all depends on whether you are prepared to risk the printer. Worst case is it will clog the jets, replacement jets, installed, would probably cost more than the ink... On the other hand they will probably work just fine, provided they are well shaken before use. I would probably go for it but I am a bit of a dare devil with these things. I refilled my HP printer toner cartridges with some old toner from an Apple printer. It didn't work, the toner stuck to the drum and printed a repeating offset image. I had to dump the cartridge. Printer is still OK though. Your call... Please tell us what you decide and if you do use them let us know the outcome
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| Posted by jk: Tue Sep 24th, 2013 17:14 | 3rd Post |
| The price of a new printer is peanuts compared to the ink costs. All my printers are now Canon printers as they use less ink compared to an Epson. Epson have some pretty woeful tricks as well such as making the firmware tell you that the printer needs to go for maintenance with Epson when all that is required is to wash a sponge as it is full of dry ink that the printer has wasted due to poor firmware!!! Epson have as much chance of selling me a printer as Nokia have of selling me a mobile phone or other electronic appliance. Zero or none is an overestimate.
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| Posted by Robert: Tue Sep 24th, 2013 18:11 | 4th Post |
jk wrote:The price of a new printer is peanuts compared to the ink costs. I though I would check that out, not knowing much about that particular printer. Admittedly it was the first site I picked from the Google search but I think Kathy has a very high end printer, perhaps she better sell it at say, half price and get a Canon, or two?  Attachment: Screen Shot 2013-09-24 at 23.07.53.jpg (Downloaded 52 times)
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| Posted by Eric: Tue Sep 24th, 2013 18:22 | 5th Post |
Kathy Baker wrote:Any thoughts on using authentic but very expired ink in the Epson R800? Hi Kathy ...nice to hear from you. Third party equivalent cartridges have a greater tendency to block than Epson cartridges. I found they needed to be used more regularly to keep the ink flowing. It might be that out of date Epson cartridges have a greater tendency to block....if that's the case, the same increased frequency of use should work. But I do really wonder if Epson's ink shelf life is more about colour fidelity rather than a tendency to dry out. After all, they are sealed. I would go for it.
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| Posted by amazing50: Wed Sep 25th, 2013 10:12 | 6th Post |
| Any pigmented ink will settle in time. If you decide to use them, hold each cart up rite and shake them horizontally for at least a minute, then install the carts and let them rest for about an hour so that any fine bubbles will dislodge. You don't want air trapped in the print lines.
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| Posted by jk: Wed Sep 25th, 2013 11:18 | 7th Post |
amazing50 wrote: Any pigmented ink will settle in time. If you decide to use them, hold each cart up rite and shake them horizontally for at least a minute, then install the carts and let them rest for about an hour so that any fine bubbles will dislodge. You don't want air trapped in the print lines.That is a good tip. I recommend you follow this advice if you use pigmented inks. I'm somewhat surprised that the printers themselves dont have a shaker device to do this after first installation of the cartridges to ensure best ink pigment mixing during life of the cartridge.
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| Posted by Robert: Wed Sep 25th, 2013 11:21 | 8th Post |
| If you happen to have an ultra sonic cleaner perhaps sitting the cartridges in the water for a few minutes will dislodge and un-settle the pigments?
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| Posted by Kathy Baker: Wed Sep 25th, 2013 18:23 | 9th Post |
I ordered the old ink. We will see what happens. If I have to clean anything I will be back.   
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| Posted by Kathy Baker: Wed Sep 25th, 2013 18:26 | 10th Post |
jk wrote: Why would they do that? Then you would need to buy less ink.
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| Posted by Eric: Wed Sep 25th, 2013 18:52 | 11th Post |
jk wrote:amazing50 wrote:They do...they move side to side when printing that must shake it up sufficiently...if you print regularly.Any pigmented ink will settle in time. If you decide to use them, hold each cart up rite and shake them horizontally for at least a minute, then install the carts and let them rest for about an hour so that any fine bubbles will dislodge. You don't want air trapped in the print lines.That is a good tip. I recommend you follow this advice if you use pigmented inks.
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| Posted by Robert: Thu Sep 26th, 2013 02:13 | 12th Post |
Kathy Baker wrote:I ordered the old ink. We will see what happens. If I have to clean anything I will be back. Good luck with it Kathy, I am sure UPS will give it a good shaking! ------------------------------------------ Kathy Baker wrote: jk wrote:Why would they do that? Then you would need to buy less ink. . 
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| Posted by jk: Thu Sep 26th, 2013 03:42 | 13th Post |
Kathy Baker wrote:jk wrote:Why would they do that? Then you would need to buy less ink. True, but whatever happened to the famed Customer Care that was one of the reasons why people bought goods from USA? Probably the same as the famed British engineering. They went down the pan when the accountants took control to enable greater shareholder value.
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| Posted by blackfox: Thu Sep 26th, 2013 14:14 | 14th Post |
| i have a five year old canon ip6600d printer it takes six cartridges the canon branded ones work out around £90+ for the set ,i have now used for the last four years refills from a local supplier that cost me £12 for the full set ,never had a problem ,they work the pics don't seem to fade .all good . saying that i also have a year old canon scanner /printer gifted by my son a mp499 it takes two cartridges which i have to take to the ink shop to be refilled and this cost £15 for the two ,he gave me the printer as it was cheaper to buy a new one than get a canon refill .weird world we live in .
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| Posted by amazing50: Thu Sep 26th, 2013 19:49 | 15th Post |
jk wrote:
Some Canon large format printers have shakers. My ipf6100 24 inch (about 60cm) shakes every day for a few minutes if it is not powered down. It's on a battery backup/surge box and it often sits idle for weeks when I travel. It does a head check and sometimes a cleaning and then prints without any problems. The Canon ipf 6100 uses 12 carts and the OEM ink is over $100 a cart. I get aftermarket carts from the US for about $50 each including shipping. The ink usage is way less than my old Epson 4000 17inch printer and there are no clogging problems so it was well worth recycling the Epson and buying the Canon.
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| Posted by jk: Fri Sep 27th, 2013 14:29 | 16th Post |
amazing50 wrote:jk wrote: I love that printer but I chickened out buying it as I rarely make prints larger than A3+ size. I got the Canon Pixma Pro9000 Mk2 as it uses dye inks which work better for CIS systems.
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| Posted by Ed Matusik: Fri Sep 27th, 2013 15:28 | 17th Post |
| I had 2 HP photoprinters which were no longer compatible with the newer windows OS's, so I got rid of them. The small inl reservoirs required replacement after only 4 or 5 8"X 10" high quality prints so ink was the most costly item. I've been looking into a new printer, but, from following this discussion, I tend to think that I may just send the photos I want printed to somewhere like MPIX and bypass the hassles with clogged heads, etc..
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| Posted by amazing50: Sun Sep 29th, 2013 16:21 | 18th Post |
| Ed if you don't want a lot of your pix printed a comercial printer is a good choice. Even with a a large format printer I still send out my 4x6 prints. They can do it cheaper.
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