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Posted by jk: Tue Aug 4th, 2015 16:14 1st Post
Nikon introduces 24-70mm F2.8 VR, 24mm F1.8 and 200-500 F5.6 FX lenses.
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/6268500488/nikon-introduces-24-70mm-f2-8-vr-24mm-f1-8-and-200-500-f5-6-fx-lenses

Pricing and availability for the three lenses is as follows:

AF-S Nikkor 24-70mm F2.8E ED VR - $2399 in late August
AF-S Nikkor 24mm F1.8G ED - $749.95 in mid-September
AF-S Nikkor 200-500mm F5.6E ED VR - $1399.95 in mid-September

The new 200-500 f5.6 looks nice but then again so is the price, I think I might be tempted to trade my 400mm f2.8 AFS for one of them and an XT1 body.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Aug 5th, 2015 04:55 2nd Post
Interesting 200-500 wonder how it compares with my 80-400mm? Let me know if you are parting with your 400mm I could be interested if price is good!



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Posted by jk: Wed Aug 5th, 2015 07:06 3rd Post
I will probably release the 400mm in October when I come across to UK.
It is 400mm f2.8 ED AFS but no VR. I am unconvinced that VR is useful on long telephotos as I will frequently use it on a tripod so the VR must be switched off for tripod use.

Also then Fuji come out with their 100-400mm I will possibly get that for my XT1.



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Posted by Iain: Thu Aug 6th, 2015 14:19 4th Post
The 200-500 looks very interesting, it may be the one thing that might bring me back to Nikon.



Posted by jk: Thu Aug 27th, 2015 12:26 5th Post
Iain wrote:
The 200-500 looks very interesting, it may be the one thing that might bring me back to Nikon.
Well with the D7200 and the 200-500mm you effectively get a 300-750mm equivalent on a FX camera.



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Posted by Iain: Sat Aug 29th, 2015 13:17 6th Post
That was in the back of my mind when I bought the D7200 Jonathan.



Posted by jk: Sat Aug 29th, 2015 15:28 7th Post
I want the first one in UK!
I want to get one of these if I dont dump my Nikon gear before it arrives!



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Posted by Eric: Sat Aug 29th, 2015 16:58 8th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Interesting 200-500 wonder how it compares with my 80-400mm? Let me know if you are parting with your 400mm I could be interested if price is good!
It's hard not to assume that it will suffer the same shortcomings when compared to a prime.



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Posted by amazing50: Sun Aug 30th, 2015 09:04 9th Post
Primes also have shortcomings, even though they are sharper etc.
Zooms fill the frame more often and avoid losses from cropping.
Just try a moon shot with an 85mm Zeiss and crop the moon to 200mm immage.



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Posted by Eric: Sun Aug 30th, 2015 11:52 10th Post
amazing50 wrote:
Primes also have shortcomings, even though they are sharper etc.
Zooms fill the frame more often and avoid losses from cropping.
Just try a moon shot with an 85mm Zeiss and crop the moon to 200mm immage.

I was thinking more of the maximum aperture and speed of use, rather than the reach.

I got the impression that Graham's 80-400 was 'falling short' due to max aperture limitations and speed of focus as well as reach....hence buying the 500mm prime.



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Posted by jk: Sun Aug 30th, 2015 13:36 11th Post
Yes the new 200-500mm AFS VR is constant aperture f5.6.

This will mean that it will not focus as fast as my Nikon 400mm f2.8 AFS.



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Posted by Eric: Sun Aug 30th, 2015 15:53 12th Post
jk wrote:
Yes the new 200-500mm AFS VR is constant aperture f5.6.

This will mean that it will not focus as fast as my Nikon 400mm f2.8 AFS.

I have never understood WHY primes should be faster focusing than zooms?



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Posted by Gilbert Sandberg: Sun Aug 30th, 2015 16:15 13th Post
Eric,
re: why
Theoretically, as AF systems need light and contrast:
-any zoom will have (due to more elements in the lens) have less contrast
-most zooms do not have the same max. aperture as some primes
Regards, Gilbert



Posted by jk: Sun Aug 30th, 2015 16:25 14th Post
Exactly as Gilbert says......
If a lens captures more light (max aperture) then it can allow the AF module to work more quickly and effectively.



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Posted by amazing50: Mon Aug 31st, 2015 12:34 15th Post
You can also turn on the focus assist light.:lol:



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Posted by Gilbert Sandberg: Mon Aug 31st, 2015 14:06 16th Post
A,
re: turn on the focus assist light.
Alas, most users on this forum use single-digit Nikons (no flash or focus light), and even then: that light works only in some limited circumstances.
Regards, Gilbert



Posted by jk: Mon Aug 31st, 2015 17:49 17th Post
First thing I recommend to anyone who uses any camera with a focus assist light is to switch it off.

If you want to focus accurately on a subject then you need to either provide sufficient light to the camera AF module and/or light the subject adequately. If you light the subject with a video or continuous light then the focusing is fast and you also get better images.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Aug 31st, 2015 18:00 18th Post
Gilbert Sandberg wrote:
Eric,
re: why
Theoretically, as AF systems need light and contrast:
-any zoom will have (due to more elements in the lens) have less contrast
-most zooms do not have the same max. aperture as some primes
Regards, Gilbert

Thank you. I suppose whilst I recognised that those differences influence the ability to lock on focus or not.... yes or no....black or white, I had never considered that the 'speed' of that focus acquisition was part of the process. I guess it's logical that it's all related.



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Posted by jk: Tue Sep 15th, 2015 07:08 19th Post
A review here.

http://www.cyberphoto.se/info.php?article=200500vr



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Posted by jk: Tue Sep 15th, 2015 07:13 20th Post
Translation of some of the text.

Nikon 200-500 against Sigma and Tamron 150-600 zooms
Size-wise, the Nikon 200-500 more on par with the cheaper versions of Tamron and Sigma, ie, a smaller and lighter optics to secure more often bring with them, and would rather use the free hand than the Sigma 150-600 Sports. But the price and performance is Nikon's more on par with sports variant, however, the step of the image quality, stabilization and autofocus function. Also compared the Sigma 150-600 C including Sigma converter TC-1401 and the Nikon 200-500 including Nikon Converter TC-14E ​​III, and this difference becomes even more clearly to the advantage of Nikon, which also depends on the Nikon converter is sharper (but fits unfortunately not at all on Sigma optics, and Sigma 1401 is only compatible with their own lenses).

Plus
+ Good sharpness over the entire zoom range at full opening
+ Excellent sharpness at f / 8 at all focal lengths
+ Negligible chromatic aberration
+ Low Distortion
+ Very effective stabilization
+ Fixed aperture of f / 5.6 across the zoom range
+ Autofocus quieter than usual
+ Autofocus quickly and accurately (Nikon D810)
+ A sturdy tripod mount included
+ Lens Hood Included
+ Performs well with Nikon's teleconverter TC-14E ​​III
+ Low price in view of its performance and image quality

Less
- Grows in length during zooming (just like other similar telephoto zooms)
- Relatively large, heavy (just like other similar telephoto zooms)
Nikon 200-500 against Sigma and Tamron 150-600 zooms
Size-wise, the Nikon 200-500 more on par with the cheaper versions of Tamron and Sigma, ie, a smaller and lighter optics to secure more often bring with them, and would rather use the free hand than the Sigma 150-600 Sports. But the price and performance is Nikon's more on par with sports variant, however, the step of the image quality, stabilization and autofocus function. Also compared the Sigma 150-600 C including Sigma converter TC-1401 and the Nikon 200-500 including Nikon Converter TC-14E ​​III, and this difference becomes even more clearly to the advantage of Nikon, which also depends on the Nikon converter is sharper (but fits unfortunately not at all on Sigma optics, and Sigma 1401 is only compatible with their own lenses).

Conclusion
With the new AF-S 200-500 / 5,6g ED VR Nikon shows where furniture should go! This lens is in my opinion the most affordable and best performing super-telephoto zoom, in writing, with slightly better image quality and better autofocus and stabilization than others. Also gives more useful results with the 1.4x converter (which of course also the TC-14E ​​III, the converter has a significant role).



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Posted by Iain: Tue Sep 15th, 2015 14:52 21st Post
Sounds good but I'll wait a bit for a few more reviews.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Sep 17th, 2015 09:07 22nd Post
I shall be interested to see reviews on the new 24-70 f2.8 AF-S VR the present lens with no VR is still my best lens see this pix from my very wet Ireland trip using the old lens on my D810.

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Posted by jk: Thu Sep 17th, 2015 09:25 23rd Post
I am not convinced that adding VR to a lens improves it.
There are many occasions where VR should be turned off and also whilst VR may allow you to get the occasional shot where a non-VR lens might have failed so for me it is another technology that needs evaluation of your real needs.

Also the question that may need answering is ..... Which is cheaper a good tripod or VR in all your lenses?
I know there is also a convenience factor that needs to be considered.



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Posted by Iain: Thu Sep 17th, 2015 10:30 24th Post
Is the 200-500mm out yet, I was told on the Nikon stand at bird fair that today was the launch date.



Posted by Iain: Thu Sep 17th, 2015 10:44 25th Post
Just found some one got theirs today so must be shipping now.

Roll on the reviews.



Posted by jk: Thu Sep 17th, 2015 16:21 26th Post
Just under £1200 at WEX. There is a waiting list apparently. I am waiting for a few more reviews and also I will want to collect it when I go to UK in October if I decide to buy.
If my Fuji XT1 and 100-400mm provides me what I want then I will be getting that lens instead.



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Posted by Iain: Fri Sep 18th, 2015 09:43 27th Post
I'm still waiting. I played with one of the new 300f4's with and without TC's today and am well impressed even with the mike 2x it was so sharp and so light. Hmmm.



Posted by jk: Sun Sep 27th, 2015 05:37 28th Post
Another review here.
http://nikonrumors.com/2015/09/26/nikon-af-s-nikkor-200-500mm-f5-6e-ed-vr-lens-field-test-review.aspx/



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