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Posted by Ed Matusik: Tue Apr 24th, 2012 17:22 1st Post
Where does Adobe hide the deactivation link in lightroom? I looked through the onscreen locations, such as, edit (preferences, etc.), help (registration, etc.) but can't find where it is. - EdM



Posted by jk: Tue Apr 24th, 2012 17:30 2nd Post
What do you mean by deactivation Ed ?
Stop it downloading images from cards, being default processor or what ?



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Posted by Robert: Tue Apr 24th, 2012 17:50 3rd Post
I suspect he means to deactivate the software from a licensing point of view, in order to install on another computer.

As far as I know in practical terms there isn't a limit on how many computers Lr is installed on. It may scream if you launch it on too many at once.

I have a Lr3 on four Macs and it doesn't complain, although I only ever use one at a time... ;-)

Sorry, I didn't actually address the question, to the best of my knowledge there isn't one. PC's may have a de-install utility in the Adobe folder? There isn't one on a Mac installation.



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Posted by Ed Matusik: Tue Apr 24th, 2012 18:21 4th Post
Robert's got it. I assumed that LR4 was subject to the same limitations as Photoshop and other products, namely, that it could be loaded to only 2 computers.  It would seem to be a questionable assumption. Anyone know for certain? - EdM 



Posted by rlevy: Tue Apr 24th, 2012 22:08 5th Post
I have always been able to find the deactivation on Photoshop, but not on LR. I just transferred my PS to a new computer after deactivating it on my old one, then did LR and had no issue with activating it, even though I did not deactivate LR on my old computer.



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Posted by Ed Matusik: Wed Apr 25th, 2012 08:54 6th Post
rlevy wrote: I have always been able to find the deactivation on Photoshop, but not on LR. I just transferred my PS to a new computer after deactivating it on my old one, then did LR and had no issue with activating it, even though I did not deactivate LR on my old computer. Thanks Robert, I asked just for the same reason.  Although photoshop has a prominent 'Deactivate' selection under the 'Help' menu, Lightroom does not.  So I can try to just load LR4 on my new computer and see what happens. - EdM.



Posted by Robert: Wed Apr 25th, 2012 09:31 7th Post
You should not encounter any issues Ed.



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Posted by jk: Wed Apr 25th, 2012 10:09 8th Post
Seems like Adobe have a more sensible policy regards installation of LR than for Photoshop.
I know that Photoshop is their cash cow but it is so painful when the activation goes wrong that it does warrant the question why?

The whole activation process is too complex. A single serialisation code with the software is all that is required (just like they did in the past before Photoshop CS).

If they find that a serialisation code is being abused then they just need to block that code from future updates.



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Posted by Ed Matusik: Wed Apr 25th, 2012 10:55 9th Post
Robert Levy was right. I'm actually going to inherit my wife's Video editing machine and she's getting a newer one. So, I loaded LR4 on her computer just about 30 minutes ago, and had no problems or nasty messages from Adobe. Thanks again. - EdM



Posted by Doug: Thu Apr 26th, 2012 13:25 10th Post
I'm pretty fussy about not ripping off movies, music or using software gifted from a friend who still uses it and didn't pay for it themselves

However, I feel that a single user should be able to install LR on as many computers as they want provided 2 copies are not being used simultaneously

Adobes license agreement usually permits use on 2 computers, but not simultaneously

This is one of the reasons I particularly like the Mac App store since I can legitimately install a piece of software on as many machines as I own with auto updates and more, if only adobe and others would release more software there



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Posted by Ed Matusik: Thu Apr 26th, 2012 17:14 11th Post
Doug wrote: I'm pretty fussy about not ripping off movies, music or using software gifted from a friend who still uses it and didn't pay for it themselves

However, I feel that a single user should be able to install LR on as many computers as they want provided 2 copies are not being used simultaneously

Adobes license agreement usually permits use on 2 computers, but not simultaneously

This is one of the reasons I particularly like the Mac App store since I can legitimately install a piece of software on as many machines as I own with auto updates and more, if only adobe and others would release more software there
The 2-computer limitation doesn't seem to apply in this case Doug.  I loaded LR4 on a 3rd computer without removing the software from either of the other 2 and had no problem activating it. - EdM.



Posted by Robert: Thu Apr 26th, 2012 18:07 12th Post
Hi Ed, You aren't actually ACTIVATING Lightroom. you simply put in a password/passkey which allows the software to run.

With the Cs Suit software like Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat and Premiere the software checks with the Adobe servers every time it launches that it is running on the same computer it was activated on. The activation process is a two way process between you and Adobe.

The Lightroom password can be entered even if the computer isn't on-line, you can't activate one of the Cs applications if you are not on-line.

If a computer is stolen, or the Hard Drive packs up suddenly it can be a problem getting Adobe to release that installation version. In the case of theft they will I understand accept a Crime number, but sometimes they can take some convincing that a HD has packed up suddenly.



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Posted by Ed Matusik: Thu Apr 26th, 2012 18:39 13th Post
Robert wrote: Hi Ed, You aren't actually ACTIVATING Lightroom. you simply put in a password/passkey which allows the software to run.

With the Cs Suit software like Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat and Premiere the software checks with the Adobe servers every time it launches that it is running on the same computer it was activated on. The activation process is a two way process between you and Adobe.

The Lightroom password can be entered even if the computer isn't on-line, you can't activate one of the Cs applications if you are not on-line.

If a computer is stolen, or the Hard Drive packs up suddenly it can be a problem getting Adobe to release that installation version. In the case of theft they will I understand accept a Crime number, but sometimes they can take some convincing that a HD has packed up suddenly.
Yes, of course you're right. It just asked for the LR3 original password and never communicated with adobe online. I must be more careful with my wording from now on and not forget my quasi-legal training. - EdM. 



Posted by Robert: Thu Apr 26th, 2012 18:45 14th Post
:rofl:



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Posted by Doug: Fri Apr 27th, 2012 10:33 15th Post
Ed Matusik wrote:

The 2-computer limitation doesn't seem to apply in this case Doug.  I loaded LR4 on a 3rd computer without removing the software from either of the other 2 and had no problem activating it. - EdM.

Yes, you can load it on 1000 computers. The license agreement however, still says two (interestingly this includes virtual operating systems, one mac running lr4 on OSX and lr4 under virtualisation on Windows meets the limits of the license agreement)
I have a vague recollection of LR once refusing to launch when already running on two other computers on the same network, but this could be my imagination

In any case LR has never required activation (at least on the mac)



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Posted by richw: Sat Apr 28th, 2012 07:42 16th Post
It's also multi platform, so you can have one on a Mac and one on a Windows PC, unlike Photoshop where you would have to buy multiple licenses to run on different operating systems.



Posted by jk: Tue May 1st, 2012 04:53 17th Post
richw wrote:
It's also multi platform, so you can have one on a Mac and one on a Windows PC, unlike Photoshop where you would have to buy multiple licenses to run on different operating systems.
This is one of the features of LR that I find most appealing and I think should apply to Photoshop. The license fee is for use not installation.



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