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Nikon Spotting Scope and Nikon V1Is This 1000mm lens plus?

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Nov 13th, 2013 08:17

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I did a test with my Nikon Spotting Scope and my new (2nd Hand) little Nikon V1 with 10-30 mm lens hand held to scope eye-piece, scope was on a tripod. Car was about 100 yds away.

I think with a suitable mount to fix camera to scope results may be a bit better? Have any of you done any scoping would be interested in some comments?

I am in hospital on Friday having a right knee joint replaced so hope will then be able to walk a lot better!

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Posted by Eric: Wed Nov 13th, 2013 08:41

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Havent tried scoping yet. Will be interested in your findings...when you are back on your feet again. Good luck and best wishes for the op.

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Posted by blackfox: Wed Nov 13th, 2013 09:04

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seen some amazing stuff done with a astroscope set up i.e a large optical telescope ,and extender tubes then a dslr bolted on ,manual focus only but superb results ,theres a whole section for it on "bird forum"
nearly went down that path myself last year as you can have a 1200mm lens set up no problem

Posted by amazing50: Wed Nov 13th, 2013 10:59

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I have a 1200mm f/8 astroscope that I used with my D1 years ago. A very heavy and clumsy beast and quite useless without a gear head on the tripod. The whole kit weighed in at about 30kg. There is no diaphram on astroscopes so you always shoot wide open, just like those mirror lenses, which by the way are much more compact and quite sharp for the money.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Vivitar-800mm-Mirror-Lens-f-8-Nikon-D50-D60-D70-D80-D90-D3X-D2X-D3-D40-/151041552526?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item232ac7308e#ht_3969wt_1122

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Posted by Bob Bowen: Wed Nov 13th, 2013 11:25

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Hope the op goes well Graham and your mobility improves. ^_^

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Posted by jk: Wed Nov 13th, 2013 14:04

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Hope the operation goes well Graham.
You'll be able to move faster than those trains when it is done. :-)

re the scope and the V1 camera.
If you get the scope details - magnification then you can calculate the focal length and then apply a x3 magnification for the V1 sensor you get the FF camera equivalent.

The numbers on a binocular describe its configuration. Let's take 8—50 binoculars as an example. The first number (8) refers to the magnification, or, how many times closer an object will appear when looking through the binocular compared to looking at the same object with the naked eye. The second number (50) indicates the diameter of the objective lens (the light-gathering lens) in millimeters.

To calculate the focal length of the lens.
This depends on the physical properties of the lens, but it is typically at least 4 times the width of the lens.

The focal length of the lens for a pair of binoculars 8x50 will be a 8x50=400 then with the Nikon V12 it will be a 400 x3 = 1200mm on a FX camera.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Nov 13th, 2013 15:08

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I have had the Nikon Spotting Scope for years so have long lost all paperwork but the only markings on it are NIKON and its serial No UA002032 (Clour is green with black front and back) and the Eyepiece is x20 for Nikon Spotting Scope RA2. It's a super sharp Scope and I think 15 yrs ago cost just under £500 as that is what I have it insure for. Its not one of the top quality ones that sell for £1500 plus but when I got it from Park Cameras it was a great deal better than the average scope for £100-200.

PS thanks all for the good wishes for Friday!

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Posted by Robert: Wed Nov 13th, 2013 15:33

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Hi Graham, may I add my best wishes for a speedy recovery and good outcome from the surgery.

Stunningly clear photo from a casual setup. Not really suitable for birds in flight though. Fine for static subjects though, I would have thought.

My understanding is/was that the magnification takes place in the eyepiece of spotting scopes and can be swapped for varying magnifications, even zoom. Whereas for microscopes the magnification takes place in the objective lens, the one closest to the subject? JK?

I seem to remember reading in the Nikon Spotting scope catalogue that there is an option for a camera mount.

Edit:

http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/products/category_pages/sport_optics/category_sport_optics_fieldscope.page?ParamValue=Sport+Optics&Subnav1Param=Field+%26+Spotting+Scopes&Subnav2Param=Eyepieces+Fieldscope

Further edit, Camera mounts:

http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/products/category_pages/accessories/category_accessories_sport_optics.page?

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Posted by jk: Thu Nov 14th, 2013 11:14

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That is correct Robert regarding the microscope and the objective lens being the magnification but you can also get different eyepiece magnifications (x2, x5, x10) but the objectives come in a wide range from x10 to x250 or even x500.

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Posted by Robert: Thu Nov 14th, 2013 13:15

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I did consider getting a Nikon microscope some years ago but I don't have that many small things I want to look at, I am sure it would be very interesting to observe and perhaps even photograph the reproductive parts of some flowers, a subject which I find fascinating. Also some mosses are very interesting but also some have fine features which need high magnification.

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Posted by jk: Fri Nov 15th, 2013 03:48

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Whilst I am a great follower of the Nikon stuff I do think that the best microscopes were made by Olympus and Leitz. The Nikon plate microscopes were very good but they only magnify x25 if I remember accurately.

Modern microscopes now have a video or still sensor in the prism section so you can record your important images or output them to a large screen for discussion with others! This is really important for histology where the stain is meant to show different tissue states.

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Posted by jk: Mon Nov 25th, 2013 04:11

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Here is a follow up on Graham's original post.

http://www.photographybay.com/2013/11/22/nikon-d5200-equipped-with-spotting-scope-at-2625mm-focal-length/

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Dec 19th, 2013 10:32

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Thanks for that JK only just picking up on things.Looks a bit over the top and price too!

Starting to walk with out stick now but it will take some time yet before I can walk at normal speed and be pain free! A few bottles of Christmas Wine will do me the world of good.

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Posted by jk: Thu Dec 19th, 2013 11:03

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Well at least you are up and walking. That allows you to extend your range of photographic opportunities.

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