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I have been running some tests with my D500 and 200-500mm.
I have resisted using the three legged thing as I know that inevitably I will not use it on all occasions so I have been doing tests and even things that I woudlnt normally do when shooting.

Here is an example of some images.
First shot here is obviously in need of a tripod!!
Shutter speed was 1/20 - handheld.


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Another but resting against a pillar.
Interestingly this was taken on 22nd June at 11pm.  Just before the UK voted.  Red moons forecast portents of doom!

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Some other random shots with the 24-120mm f4.
This is untouched.

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And after some Photoshop.

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And after some Photoshop.

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This is for Robert as I know he likes this effect.

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And a snap at a lunch here in Spain.

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jk wrote:
This is for Robert as I know he likes this effect.
Very errr, interesting JK! I think somewhere between straight from the camera and the Ps processed would be my preferred choice in this case.

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Have you used it for any wildlife yet?

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Not yet Iain in any serious way. Too hot here for the birds except in the marshes which are full of gnats and mosquitoes at this point in time. In September to November I will get the migratory birds.

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Being somewhere hot has its downside. :lol:

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Well if Brexit actually does happen then I will need to come back to UK so I can enjoy best of both.
My preference would be:
In UK July-September, December to mid-January,
In Spain, late October-December, February-June except for April
Other places in December-February, April.

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Jk-

Just got mine and haven't really put it through the paces yet but I can tell that I will LOVE it. Continuous is silly fast and buffer can stand it -even shooting raw. Auto focus also seems silly fast. Feels great in the hand. High ISO may not be quite as good as fuji but it seems very very good.

My only complaint would be that there is too much in the way of menu choices - I know, I know ... that sounds like a doctor saying I have to many ways to cure you...but there is some sense to that. I have to sit down and spend a whole weekend examining each feature to get the settings right. Maybe this time I really will take the time to set up a couple of custom setting defaults.

It's a bargain - just compare the price of the D810.

I wish they didn't take the on camera flash away...I used that all the time as a commander flash device.

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Tom, re. The Flash commander...

I remember the flash is now radio frequency controlled (RF) by the D500, it's mentioned in the tech specs. Can't find anything to confirm there is a compatible flashgun on the Nikon site but this is when they reap the confusion of calling IR flash control 'wireless' when almost every person on the planet regards wireless as RF. Sigh.

You may get some clues as you explore the manual and menus.

Good luck with the D500, it's a nice tool, for the price a gift.

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Well done Tom.
I think you will love the D500. It has all the features of D810 but with DX instead of FX and as you say no flash.
I dont find that an issue as I have a IR Commander unit from my D3/D3S that I can use.
One thing that is missing is the Highlight exposure mode for metering but the Auto and matrix seems to work very well.

I am looking forward to Photokina when I expect the D900 to be announced - in effect an FX version of the D500. I will be very happy then and say Bye, Bye to my D3S and D700 at that point.

I did a flamenco shoot yesterday with the D500, D800 and D3S. The D3S handles best as I shoot a lot in portrait mode so the extra release is very helpful.
I havent had time to check the images in detail but they look good.
I also used the 200-500 AFS VR instead of my 300mm f2.8 AFS for some of my shots as a comparator. I may need to release my old faithfuls 300mm f2.8 AFS and 400mm f2.8 AFS as well.
I need to assess fully before making rash decisions.

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jk wrote:
I need to assess fully before making rash decisions.
Never part with good glass! ;-)

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May be good glass Robert but the weight of the 400 F2.8 would be enough to make me part with it. The 300, that would be a different story.

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I parted with my Nikkor 400 f 3.5 and regret having done so, easy to part with, very hard to replace.

Weight is an advantage, large mass is less prone to vibrate/shake, another reason why I wanted the D3.

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Robert wrote:
I parted with my Nikkor 400 f 3.5 and regret having done so, easy to part with, very hard to replace.

Weight is an advantage, large mass is less prone to vibrate/shake, another reason why I wanted the D3.

I must be a wimp. The heavier and bulkier the equipment, the less it encourages me to use it.

:thumbsdown:

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On a monopod or tripod the D3 and 400mm f2.8 is fairly easy to use but if you are carrying two cameras one of which has the 400mm attached life becomes burdensome. Well I certainly feel like a beast of burden. The results are awesome though.

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jk wrote:
On a monopod or tripod the D3 and 400mm f2.8 is fairly easy to use but if you are carrying two cameras one of which has the 400mm attached life becomes burdensome. Well I certainly feel like a beast of burden. The results are awesome though.
I was happy using a D3 with my 500mm on a tripod...it was lugging it about that irked me.

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Eric wrote:
Robert wrote:
I parted with my Nikkor 400 f 3.5 and regret having done so, easy to part with, very hard to replace.

Weight is an advantage, large mass is less prone to vibrate/shake, another reason why I wanted the D3.

I must be a wimp. The heavier and bulkier the equipment, the less it encourages me to use it.

:thumbsdown:

:lol: When I was working for the building firm I worked for for many years, not many wanted to assist me with tasks I was engaged in because what ever it was, it was bound to be BIG and ****ing heavy! I haven't changed!!! When you add my surveyors tripod and my heavy duty pan/tilt head, the assembly can get a rather heavy. That was probably why I got vertigo having carried it for 9 miles one day at Donnington race track. At Rockingham I variously tried a Quad and trailer and my trusty push bike. Mind you even I drew the line at carrying my tripod on my pushbike...

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Robert wrote:
Eric wrote:
Robert wrote:
I parted with my Nikkor 400 f 3.5 and regret having done so, easy to part with, very hard to replace.

Weight is an advantage, large mass is less prone to vibrate/shake, another reason why I wanted the D3.

I must be a wimp. The heavier and bulkier the equipment, the less it encourages me to use it.

:thumbsdown:

:lol: When I was working for the building firm I worked for for many years, not many wanted to assist me with tasks I was engaged in because what ever it was, it was bound to be BIG and ****ing heavy! I haven't changed!!! When you add my surveyors tripod and my heavy duty pan/tilt head, the assembly can get a rather heavy. That was probably why I got vertigo having carried it for 9 miles one day at Donnington race track. At Rockingham I variously tried a Quad and trailer and my trusty push bike. Mind you even I drew the line at carrying my tripod on my pushbike...

You rough tough Lancashire lads!
:bowing:

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:lol:

:sssshh: (Cumbria!). Although I was born in Lancashire... Brung up in the West Riding then emigrated back to Lancashire, until the boundaries commission decided I was actually in Cumbria...

Confused? So am I!!! :needsahug:

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Easier to just consider yourself a world person!

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Robert wrote:
Tom, re. The Flash commander...

I remember the flash is now radio frequency controlled (RF) by the D500, it's mentioned in the tech specs. Can't find anything to confirm there is a compatible flashgun on the Nikon site but this is when they reap the confusion of calling IR flash control 'wireless' when almost every person on the planet regards wireless as RF. Sigh.

You may get some clues as you explore the manual and menus.

Good luck with the D500, it's a nice tool, for the price a gift.

Thanks, Robert. I still have to finish unboxing - been traveling and working on a project... teasing myself with the little beauty sitting on my desk at home :-)

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Iain wrote:
May be good glass Robert but the weight of the 400 F2.8 would be enough to make me part with it. The 300, that would be a different story.
The weight is so much more severe once you get a bit used to carrying around a Fuji most of the time. That can really spoil you !

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Eric wrote:
Robert wrote:
I parted with my Nikkor 400 f 3.5 and regret having done so, easy to part with, very hard to replace.

Weight is an advantage, large mass is less prone to vibrate/shake, another reason why I wanted the D3.

I must be a wimp. The heavier and bulkier the equipment, the less it encourages me to use it.

:thumbsdown:

+1

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TomOC wrote:
Iain wrote:
May be good glass Robert but the weight of the 400 F2.8 would be enough to make me part with it. The 300, that would be a different story.
The weight is so much more severe once you get a bit used to carrying around a Fuji most of the time. That can really spoil you !

My 'brand loyalty' and the fact I am locked into one system prevents me from experimenting with alternatives. I am hard pressed to afford one set of gear, two sets would be completely out of reach.

At my last visit to car racing, one lad had what I think was a Sony... It was a tiny camera, the lad told me it was full frame, he uses it almost exclusively for video. He had a Pele? case full of very fast, top Canon lenses which he uses on the Sony via an adaptor. It appeared to be mirrorless, basically a sensor on the back of the lens.

In the building/construction trade lightweight gear is useless/rubbish. I have grown accustomed to working with heavy gear all my life and consider the D3 and a 2.8 Nikkor to be featherweight in comparison with a 90Lb rock drill leaping about trying to do it's own thing, or lifting a half ton beam in by hand on my own.

I accept it can get a bit heavy after walking 9 miles back and forth all day round a circuit but it keeps me fit, some people pay thousands of £ to lift weights in a gym, or ride a bike bolted to the floor, which I see as about as pointless as it gets.

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I just bought a Fuji X30 as it better than my Nikon as a pocket/walk around camera.
I do find that we need to always compromise with image quality, getting the shot and also not worrying overly on using the best or heavy gear all the time.
Sometimes just getting the shot is what is required.

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jk wrote:
I just bought a Fuji X30 as it better than my Nikon as a pocket/walk around camera.
I do find that we need to always compromise with image quality, getting the shot and also not worrying overly on using the best or heavy gear all the time.
Sometimes just getting the shot is what is required.

Getting the shot is ALWAYS what is required. ;-)

I am not suggesting a slide into mediocrity. However, many of the cheap compacts, phone and tablet images we see, fail due to technique rather than the equipment capability. If you know and work within the limitations of the equipment you should always be able to get good images. They may not be as sharp, may have more noise, limitations of reach etc...but the image should be sufficiently engaging to overcome those limitations.
o.O

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Yes, I so agree with that.
It is about getting the shot. Then make sure it is focussed and correctly exposed. After that go get the next image!

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As the old adage says "it's not the camera but the guy/gal behind it that matters".

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Today I found the solution to one of my Nikon 'futures' problems.
The DC-MC2 connector.
OK in simple terms the USB-lke connector used on the latest non-professional cameras instead of the 10 pin connector to connect a wired remote or GPS to the camera.
This connector is present on D90, D3xxx series, D5xxx series, D600, D610, D7xxx series, D750 cameras and I think whilst it is simpler it is less good/secure to use.

Well today I found on eBay an adapter cable so I can use all my 10pin cable accessories on my D600, D90 and if I buy one a D750.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120711331532?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

It is or will be soon winging its way to me to go in my accessory cable box. All for the princely sum of £8
I am very happy as now I have the choice of buying a D750 as a FX pairing for my D500.


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