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Posted by highlander: Sat Sep 3rd, 2016 15:23 1st Post
I have succumbed to my shoulder, neck and back. I got an XT 1 with 35mm today, I'm going to part ext my Nikon gear for more lenses.

The weight difference is amazing, but equality important, looking at the difference on my 27" monitor, the Fuji is simply ahead of he DX nikons



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Posted by jk: Sat Sep 3rd, 2016 16:33 2nd Post
I have to agree as I have been using my Fujis and Nikons together FX v DX is not a real comparison.

16MP DX Fuji v 16/24MP DX Nikon is little difference.
12MP FX v 16MP DX then there is little or no difference except in low light where FX wins.
24MP FX v 16MP DX then obviously the FX wins.
24MP FX v 24MP DX and then once again it is pixel peeping to spot the difference except in low light.

Then you consider the difference in camera weight and the Fuji system is ahead. Fuji lenses are as good as Nikon lenses.

Then you consider the AF performance and the Nikon wins.



Very very difficult balance point.
Got to be a personal decision at this point. The XT2 may or may not be a game changer.
I personaly prefer the XT1 and XT2 layout to the Nikon as it is simpler but until I get my XT2 then I dont know if the AF will be equal to the Nikon. As soon as this happens then I feel that my Nikons will be traded.



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Posted by highlander: Tue Sep 6th, 2016 12:12 3rd Post
I bought a mint XT1 at the weekend, updated the firmware (used and still on version 1.00).

First thoughts: the AF is very obviously contrast based and hunts if it can't see enough contrast on which to work. However, once I realised this I could work with, and quickly. Probably not up to sport or bird photography, but then I remember before we had autofocus and I still managed to get good motorsport with completely manual cameras. It was down to technique, a degree of positioning, and shear luck. Updating did speed things up, but mainly when I updated the firmware in the lens, which surprised me a bit.

Image quality: now I am seriously impressed. I have shot some of the same subjects as I did with my Nikon (yes on different occasions but similar) and I am certain the Fuji images are better. they have improved clarity and contrast out of the camera, even as RAW files. This is probably as much to do with the quality of the lenses i am using with the Fuji that wasn't matched by the lenses I had on the Nikon. I still maintain there is an optimal megapixel allowance for each sensor size and it sits around 12-16MP on APS-C sensors. I still maintain the images from my D200 were as good, and sometimes better, than those from my D700 funnily enough.

Ease of use: because I am old school I find the Fuji wonderfully back to basics. I love having an aperture ring on the lenses and simple dials for shutter speed, ISO, and compensation. I do find moving the focus point more trouble than on the Nikon due to that extra push of the toggle control. I think I will get used to this.

Unless the XT2 has phase detection over contrast detection for the focussing, I can't see it beating the Nikons or Canons for Autofocus, especially on critical subjects. I did get the chance to play with one but don't because I couldn't afford it and didn't want to then be tempted.

Overall, I am pleased with my decision, based on what i shoot and my old school photographic all manual background. I am becoming a luddite. I know this because I opened Photoshop for the first time in ages and thought WTF.

Lightroom being my mainstay for any processing, although I am still not convinced that it gets the most from Fuji raw files, it has improved considerably over the result I got whilst I had my XPro1.



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Posted by TomOC: Tue Sep 6th, 2016 15:30 4th Post
I love fuji and I love nikon.

what I do feel is that the fuji xt series is really a mini dslr and if you really want that, you are better off with a D500 (I think this will be the "classic" that the d300 has been).

But if you really want the advantage of fuji, you go with the x100 series or the XP series where you get all the benefit...mainly different for the VF placement and the HYBRID VF which is still (3 years since they intro'd it) unique in the photo marketplace...and really fantastic for many reasons...

IQ - great with both

Weight and Form Factor - Fuji

Focus, expandability, shutter lag, choice of lens - NIKON

what great choices we now have !!!



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Posted by jk: Wed Sep 7th, 2016 09:20 5th Post
I am somewhat in agreement with Tom.

I am very disappointed wioth the D500 and Snapbridge. If I could get my money back I would. Never felt this way about a Nikon camera.
The D500 has some nice extra AF features which are nice. I am not sure about moving the ISO button to the shutter release area but that may change with time. The sensor is fine but I think that I like my FX sensors or my APS-C sensors from Fuji.

Dont want a D5, but a D700 is to a D3 equivalent of the D5 would be good. Is it a D900??



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Posted by jk: Wed Sep 7th, 2016 09:21 6th Post
I am expecting a Fuji XT2 at end of September so I will test and report to you all.

If th AF is good and is similar to my D3S then the Nikons are all in danger of going to another home!!



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Posted by Eric: Mon Sep 12th, 2016 13:19 7th Post
I think the XT EVF is poor compared to other makes eg. Panasonic. It's colour balance and refresh rate are inferior to my wife's FZ100.

It also eats batteries ....mentioned elsewhere so I won't go on about it.

I am not sure if I should have gone with the Xpro rather than the XT to have the benefit of the hybrid viewfinder? I suppose I should have remembered I used the X100 almost exclusively on the OVF mode.

Will be interested to see if the XT2 reinstates an OVF option.



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Posted by jk: Mon Sep 12th, 2016 17:45 8th Post
Eric wrote: I think the XT EVF is poor compared to other makes eg. Panasonic. It's colour balance and refresh rate are inferior to my wife's FZ100.

It also eats batteries ....mentioned elsewhere so I won't go on about it.

I am not sure if I should have gone with the Xpro rather than the XT to have the benefit of the hybrid viewfinder? I suppose I should have remembered I used the X100 almost exclusively on the OVF mode.

Will be interested to see if the XT2 reinstates an OVF option.

You mean XPro2, not XT2.
Yes it does.
The XT2 is a newer, ?better? version of the XT1.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Sep 13th, 2016 10:42 9th Post
jk wrote:
Eric wrote: I think the XT EVF is poor compared to other makes eg. Panasonic. It's colour balance and refresh rate are inferior to my wife's FZ100.

It also eats batteries ....mentioned elsewhere so I won't go on about it.

I am not sure if I should have gone with the Xpro rather than the XT to have the benefit of the hybrid viewfinder? I suppose I should have remembered I used the X100 almost exclusively on the OVF mode.

Will be interested to see if the XT2 reinstates an OVF option.

You mean XPro2, not XT2.
Yes it does.
The XT2 is a newer, ?better? version of the XT1.


No I meant XT2, but I wrote that before reading the XT2 spec. I think the lack of OVF is a non starter for me. The EVF hamstrings me for anything but casual static subjects. I know I have retired ...but my shooting is still rarely XT pedestrian mode.

I may try and pick up a used XPro1 when I am back in the UK, rather than go to the expense of an XPro2, just to see if the hybrid viewfinder is the answer.

I've already earmarked the 18-135 lens for sale. Lovely lens, but all those IR people on the Fuji forum who said it didn't have a hotspot are talking out of their lens mount.
:lol:

It may not be as distinct as the other lenses I have but IMHO the not decent zoom for IR is the cheapie 16-50. If I decide to keep the Fuji system for colour, I feel a few wide primes may be order of the day, so they can be dual role.



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Posted by Iain: Tue Sep 20th, 2016 05:48 10th Post
I liked the IQ out of the Fuji but the focusing and the view finder just let it down for me.



Posted by Eric: Tue Sep 20th, 2016 12:08 11th Post
Iain wrote:
I liked the IQ out of the Fuji but the focusing and the view finder just let it down for me.
You are absolutely right Iain, in terms of high speed focusing and shooting situations like sport and wildlife.

I have however been having a lot of fun shooting the XT on general scenery and people shots. Put it in manual and just played with the settings to suit the subject like the old days. Even managed to get all the displays off, so a bit more battery saving.

Unless there are significant inroads on the speed of the EVF refresh rate ( by that I mean it stays on the taken image for far too long so that you need to find where the subject move to in the meantime) I don't see EVF for wildlife and sport.

Which means I will probably join Graham and Malcolm with a D500 and ditch all my short range pro glass and the D750.

The Fuji is fine for day to day use...so I don't need Nikon duplication.



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Posted by highlander: Sat Oct 1st, 2016 02:53 12th Post
I had an XPro1 and the 18-135. I sold them both when I wish I had sold the lens, kept the brilliant body, and bought decent primes. I never got on with the 18-135, it's not something I can put my finger on but it was one of those lenses that had a "look" to the results you either get on with or not. I didn't. I wrongly blamed the XPro. The OVF is great and I prefer it to the EVF. I like the XT1 for its weather proofing (I do live in Scotland). I also like the tilting screen, which eats batteries yes, but it's great on a tripod. No more bending. I think if I was going to get a new body I would struggle to decide on XT2 or XPro2. If they somehow put an OVF on the XT2 then I'd buy one.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Oct 1st, 2016 16:21 13th Post
My critique of the Fuji XT1 is several fold.

Let me say firstly it's capable of producing excellent images and the lenses are sharp. As mentioned before, the battery life is woeful. Even with the LCD switched off I only got about 150-200shots. I have the extra battery grip and EVERY day that battery was drained and the internal one needed to come to the rescue. Which meant EVERY night I had to charge two batteries.

The second gripe is the proliferation of knobs and their poor distribution around the body that caused me to HAVE to check something hadn't changed everytime it came out of the bag, or when I changed a lens. I know many people argue against menu only adjustments on Nikon entry bodies but there's a lot to be said for keeping things away from fingers and other surfaces ready to change everything from exp comp to focus mode in the blink of an eye. Yes I know about gaffer tape...but come on, these are supposed to be 21 century evolutions.

I guess the number of shots I lost through erroneous setting changes contributed to my fewer good shots per battery tally.

My biggest gripe is the EVF. It's pokey, off colour, pixelated and slow to refresh. Even shooting Cont H, there is a loss of positioning with moving subjects. Example...photographing large yellow spider on web by a fast running stream.....no problem at all with the Fuji and 200mm lens.
Photographing a Dipper, bobbing and weaving under the same fast running stream or Kites and vvultures flying 'lazily yet unpredictable in direction' against a blue sky and the EVF is too busy 'keeping control of itself' to let you follow or catch the second decisive moment ...assuming it focuses in time to get the first decisive image!!! I would also add that trying to keep track of a fast moving bird in and out of shade and full sun was far harder to watch on an EVF than an optical viewfinder. The image in the viewfinder is harsh and electronic making it an obstacle to clear sighting.

Basic camera functions shouldn't irritate and as a result, get in the way of best practise.

I think back to the film days and the Canon EOS RT (real time) body with its fixed pellicle mirror. With that you could see the exposure as it happened and keep composition. Sure you lost a half to one stop of exposure and the viewfinder was dim...but it was amazing for keeping your eye on the action.

I can't help thinking with the high ISO capability of modern sensors, resurrecting and refining that idea rather than EVFs would be a far better route for lightweight bodies without mirror movement.

You might have guessed there will be Fuji clear out soon.

I will keep the IR converted body and the right lens or lenses for IR work. But I just don't see the point on hanging onto a system that needs help from other cameras to cover more acting subject matter.



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